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	<title>Comments on: Who will compete for Vayner Media&#039;s business in Wine Country?</title>
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	<description>Dr. David Mark HOROwitz (@dmhoro) teaches marketing and wine business classes at Sonoma State University.</description>
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		<title>By: Is areallygoodejob.com a really goode idea? &#124; DrHorowitz.biz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is areallygoodejob.com a really goode idea? &#124; DrHorowitz.biz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, and big ups to @capstem for letting me know about his company CapStem after seeing my previous post! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oh, and big ups to @capstem for letting me know about his company CapStem after seeing my previous post! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Maja Wood</title>
		<link>http://drho.ro/who-will-compete-for-vayner-medias-business-in-wine-country/comment-page-1/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Maja Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you bring up some good and interesting thoughts. But, I do want to point out that in the preceding comment, Shana had stated that companies should spend 1.5 hours per DAY, not per week, on social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you bring up some good and interesting thoughts. But, I do want to point out that in the preceding comment, Shana had stated that companies should spend 1.5 hours per DAY, not per week, on social media.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Beauchamp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Beauchamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to see how this all fleshes out.  I think that 1.5 hrs per week is just enough to do the social media aspect of a winery&#039;s marketing harm, but not get the benefits.  That would be like an auto manufacturer saying that they can only afford seat belts and brakes for half the seats and wheels.

A strong SM and wine2.0 presence is crucial for a winery setting itself apart from their competitors, and I believe that right now truly is the witching hour where the customers are looking for that online, connected, social relationship from a winery, and few wineries have figured out how to provide it successfully.

A winery that does it will will win, big time, everyone else will just have to work a little bit harder to get the same bump.

A competent, first rate Social Media team in the wine country will not need to worry about competing with Gary Vaynerchuk.  His expertise and evangelizing will only help expand the pie.  No, your main competitors for client dollars will be the hundreds of freshly minted &quot;SM Experts&quot; that have a twitter account and a bizilion followers, and believe that makes them an expert and are willing to work for free.

We have seen this before.  This is a repeat of all of the Web Page experts who with a copy of Web Pages for Dummies and living in their mom&#039;s basement, convinced clients that they were Brand Makers and would work for nearly free.

Differentiation and success will come (with a lot of hard work) to the qualified and experienced PR professionals that understand this new SM aspect of the old problem of connecting to people.  Not to a script kitty with a Twitter account and not much more of a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to see how this all fleshes out.  I think that 1.5 hrs per week is just enough to do the social media aspect of a winery&#8217;s marketing harm, but not get the benefits.  That would be like an auto manufacturer saying that they can only afford seat belts and brakes for half the seats and wheels.</p>
<p>A strong SM and wine2.0 presence is crucial for a winery setting itself apart from their competitors, and I believe that right now truly is the witching hour where the customers are looking for that online, connected, social relationship from a winery, and few wineries have figured out how to provide it successfully.</p>
<p>A winery that does it will will win, big time, everyone else will just have to work a little bit harder to get the same bump.</p>
<p>A competent, first rate Social Media team in the wine country will not need to worry about competing with Gary Vaynerchuk.  His expertise and evangelizing will only help expand the pie.  No, your main competitors for client dollars will be the hundreds of freshly minted &#8220;SM Experts&#8221; that have a twitter account and a bizilion followers, and believe that makes them an expert and are willing to work for free.</p>
<p>We have seen this before.  This is a repeat of all of the Web Page experts who with a copy of Web Pages for Dummies and living in their mom&#8217;s basement, convinced clients that they were Brand Makers and would work for nearly free.</p>
<p>Differentiation and success will come (with a lot of hard work) to the qualified and experienced PR professionals that understand this new SM aspect of the old problem of connecting to people.  Not to a script kitty with a Twitter account and not much more of a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Shana Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shana Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting this video up David. I completely agree with your point on the lack of &quot;chimps&quot; in the Wine (and for me, the Sonoma County) world.  I think what you will start seeing is those of us who are singular freelance PR/Marketing/Social Media Marketers will be pooling our talents together to create a chimp-like company that will be able to take on the Gary&#039;s of the world. At least that is the goal right now.

In my social media classes, I stress that they have to be ready to engage with the consumers, ready to spend that 1.5 a day to provide content, answer questions, conduct blog/twitter searches, etc. etc. They have to be ready to listen and connect in a meaningful way. Basically, bring something to the table that will peak consumer interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting this video up David. I completely agree with your point on the lack of &#8220;chimps&#8221; in the Wine (and for me, the Sonoma County) world.  I think what you will start seeing is those of us who are singular freelance PR/Marketing/Social Media Marketers will be pooling our talents together to create a chimp-like company that will be able to take on the Gary&#8217;s of the world. At least that is the goal right now.</p>
<p>In my social media classes, I stress that they have to be ready to engage with the consumers, ready to spend that 1.5 a day to provide content, answer questions, conduct blog/twitter searches, etc. etc. They have to be ready to listen and connect in a meaningful way. Basically, bring something to the table that will peak consumer interest.</p>
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		<title>By: David Horowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Horowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tom.

I think a lot of wineries now realize they have to &quot;be on&quot; twitter and facebook.

But, figuring out how to spend the 1.5 hours a day engaged in Internet-Based marketing is tricky.

Also, figuring out how to put out content that gets &quot;liked&quot;, &quot;Re-Tweeted&quot;, &quot;Tagged&quot;, and &quot;shared&quot; is tricky.  I was surprised that two of my students had &quot;liked&quot; something that a winery had done on facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom.</p>
<p>I think a lot of wineries now realize they have to &#8220;be on&#8221; twitter and facebook.</p>
<p>But, figuring out how to spend the 1.5 hours a day engaged in Internet-Based marketing is tricky.</p>
<p>Also, figuring out how to put out content that gets &#8220;liked&#8221;, &#8220;Re-Tweeted&#8221;, &#8220;Tagged&#8221;, and &#8220;shared&#8221; is tricky.  I was surprised that two of my students had &#8220;liked&#8221; something that a winery had done on facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Wark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Wark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:

Interesting Lecture. It will be interesting to see if Gary sells his services to anyone in the wine business besides the very largest conglomerates.

At this point in the game, getting a winery to engage in social media is the first hurdle. It&#039;s not a matter of simply putting up a face book page or a blog. In fact, depending on the winery and the personnel they have, a blog may not be the right thing to do.

That said wineries that can spend 1.5 hours a day engaging in Internet-Based marketing, and do it in a serious way, can make a real impact on their business.

Cheers,
Tom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:</p>
<p>Interesting Lecture. It will be interesting to see if Gary sells his services to anyone in the wine business besides the very largest conglomerates.</p>
<p>At this point in the game, getting a winery to engage in social media is the first hurdle. It&#8217;s not a matter of simply putting up a face book page or a blog. In fact, depending on the winery and the personnel they have, a blog may not be the right thing to do.</p>
<p>That said wineries that can spend 1.5 hours a day engaging in Internet-Based marketing, and do it in a serious way, can make a real impact on their business.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Tom&#8230;</p>
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